Hi GK!

I had never heard of Christadelphianism before reading this tonight. But unbelief in the deity of Christ is not Biblical. It is denying Jesus for Who He truly is.

Your posting of scripture from the Gospel of John 1 verses 17 and 18 means nothing without the rest of what was written ahead of it. That is reading out of context.

You state that from your position that the Word was/is not Jesus but the wisdom of God. But clearly John says that the Word was God Himself. John goes on to call the Word "He" and "Him". Can the written word "logos" or God's wisdom be called "He"? Verse 14 says that the Word became flesh. Whether you want to call it Word or Wisdom, it became flesh. That means taking on human form. This scripture also refers to Jesus as the Light. It also says that John testified about "Him" saying that "He existed before me." Jesus didn't simply reveal written words to us, He is the Word made flesh.

You'll find further down in this post the scripture from Philippians 2:5-8 where Paul wrote that Christ Jesus had "existed in the form of God" before taking the form of a bond-servant.

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 He was in the beginning with God.

3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.

5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

6 There came a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him.

8 He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light.

9 There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

11 He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him.

12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

15 John testified about Him and cried out, saying, "This was He of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.'"

16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace.




Philippians 2:5-8

5 Have this at***ude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus,

6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.

8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.