View Full Version : faith and chance

10-01-2017, 07:21 AM
ah yes, the old "Evolution= chance" argument....(I love it when this one is tossed at me...LOL)

To see how this argument against evolution does not agree with the Bible, we will consider the story of Jonah and the Whale!

In that story there is a great storm at sea.
The men on the ship decide to draw lots to see who was at fault for the storm.
So the men cast lots, and the lot falls onto Jonah.

Now lets say that we were watching the casting of the lot, and it falling onto Jonah.

If we were a scientist we would say that this was just "chance"
We would not see any giant hand controlling the casting of the lot onto Jonah....

so as far as we would know, this was 100% just dumb luck that it fell onto Jonah.

However......at the same time....

When I read this same story I dont see any "dumb luck" at all!
There was nothing left to "chance" in this story
This was 100% all totally controlled by the hand of God....

Thus the argument against evolution saying that "Evolution = chance" is also a giant FAIL !

Science cant prove God.
Science cant test for God.
So Science can never prove God.
Thus when science looks at life on the earth, all it can see is "dumb luck and chance"

But because we have faith we can see beyond the things that are seen with our eyes, and understand that God is always in full control of "Dumb luck and chance"

10-03-2017, 05:10 AM
Hi Alan, hope you are well.

Science can't prove evolution either, there's no luck involved just dumb. ;)

10-03-2017, 07:05 AM
From the standpoint of our faith we understand that God was controlling the casting of lots....but from the standpoint of science it was random luck...

12-17-2017, 05:01 PM
your Jonah example fails to make your point. Instead of using the casting of lots, you should have used the verse that talks about how God prepared a fish to swallow Jonah. there was no species just one fish given a specific task.

12-24-2017, 07:33 AM
My Jonah story shows us that you can see both "chance" and "Gods sovereignty" walking hand in hand without contradiction.